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Living Longer – A good or a bad thing?

Purpose of Event

We are all living longer, but is this a good or a bad thing? Does the quality of an extended life always match its length? What is causing longevity to increase and what future changes can we expect?

This is your chance to let policy makers know what you think about our ageing society. The results from this discussion will be fed into a database which will be made available to officials and politicians when they seek for formulate new policies.

Jane Seymour is the Sue Ryder Care Professor of Palliative and End of Life Studies at the University of Nottingham. She will be summarising the current situation, explaining why we are living longer, and using her experience to make some educated guesses about where future trends might be leading us.

After a break for supper you will then have a chance to express your point of view and discuss these issues with others. Finally you will be able to record your views which will then be input into the SciDemocracy database. This will be retained and act as a resource for future policy makers.

Who should attend?

This event will be of interest to members of the public, especially those who are ageing or have elderly relatives, as well as social and palliative care workers involved with the elderly.

How To Book

Visit http://livinglonger.eventbrite.com/

The event is free. Voluntary contributions invited to cover cost of refreshments and supper.

Venue and Date

18:15, Tue 22 March

Quad
Market Place
Cathedral Quarter
Derby
DE1 3AS

SciDemocracy

This event is part of a pilot aiming to design a mechanism by which members of the public attending a science event can feed back their views to policy-makers and help influence the future of science. The pilot project is looking at ‘Human Development’ – the ethical issues surrounding the influence of science and technology on the future of humanity.

The SciDemocracy project is run by Sciencewise, the British Science Association and Dialogue By Design.

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About Wyken Seagrave

Author of books and websites about the history of the universe including http://historyoftheuniverse.com (factual) and http://timecrystal.co.uk (fictional)

2 comments on “Living Longer – A good or a bad thing?

  1. Administrator
    March 16, 2011

    For some excellent discussion of the future of ageing go to

    http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/786.page

  2. Administrator
    March 25, 2011

    The comments made at the event (which have been submitted to the SciDemocracy database) were:

    1. What are your hopes and aspirations with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    Lowering retirement age for ALL!

    2. What are your concerns with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    Lack of compassionate care and adequate care for the elderly.

    3. What issues would you like to raise with scientists or policy makers with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    Imigration control so there is more ‘resources’ available for an ageing society.

    4. Any other comments you would like to make.

    Too many people in the population? Spay us on demand rather than ‘contraception’.

    —————–

    1. What are your hopes and aspirations with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    To give the elderly more choice within the care they receive. Lack of funding results in many dying in care homes against their wishes. Many of the care-home staff are under-trained and underpaid. If the population are living longer how is this going to effect the quality of choice?

    2. What are your concerns with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    Currently a very “medical model” approach is taken to the treatment of the elderly in hospital. In general healthcare professionals are more concerned about treating the illness. The statistics all look positive about the treatment and success but sometimes it is at the cost of the mental and social needs of the patients as individuals.

    3. What issues would you like to raise with scientists or policy makers with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    More training! Better pay for care workers?
    Changes to how medical ‘End of Life’ care is currently in the NHS. A more social model approach is required i.e. support for family, choice as to where they wish to die. More funding to allow this!!

    4. Any other comments you would like to make.

    Patient-centred care is key. Less about ticking boxes and producing good statistics and more about individual needs and choices.

    —————–

    1. What are your hopes and aspirations with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    - Better staffing levels in clinical environments.
    - Better understanding of more medical conditions.
    - More funding for nurses/care homes.
    - Better understanding of both mental ill-health and physical ill-health.

    2. What are your concerns with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    - Little understanding of how physical illnesses and mental health illness often go hand in hand.
    - Minimum funding available to care homes in particular
    - Care homes which aren’t nurse-led becoming wider-spread.
    - Minimal staffing levels in clinical environment.

    3. What issues would you like to raise with scientists or policy makers with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    As mentioned is section 2.

    4. Any other comments you would like to make.

    —————–

    1. What are your hopes and aspirations with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    - More training for health care assistants in care homes + hospitals, particularly residential homes.
    - More staff in health care setting to enable 1:1 care.

    2. What are your concerns with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    Older people aren’t getting the care they need which subsequently could reduce chances of living longer due to stress and depression levels. More time needs to be spent with individuals.

    3. What issues would you like to raise with scientists or policy makers with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    More training is needed for health care assistants as they are incredibly involved with everyday care. 1-1 care is vital to ensure holistic care.

    4. Any other comments you would like to make.

    —————–

    1. What are your hopes and aspirations with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    I hope in regards to nursing & residential care homes that there is an increase in nursing led homes as currently (in my experience) the majority being profit making organisations not focused on improving quality of life for the resident rather than “PROFIT”.

    2. What are your concerns with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    My concerns are the direction of the government white paper “Equality & Excellence: Liberating the NHS” (2010) as this is moving the direction to the privatisation of the NHS. This concerns me greatly as I feel this would cause massive age & social inequalities.

    3. What issues would you like to raise with scientists or policy makers with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    See above regarding Concerns & Hopes.

    4. Any other comments you would like to make.
    —————–

    1. What are your hopes and aspirations with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    Improved quality of care for older people in nursing care homes. More support for staff. Realisation of importance of holistic needs i.e. social, spiritual, psychological health, not just the basic care for physical needs.

    2. What are your concerns with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    Poor levels of care due to inadequate staffing levels – minimum requirements not appropriate. Lack of staff training and poor levels of pay. Low staff morale. Only basic caer needs met. Private companies in the business for profit not CARE.

    3. What issues would you like to raise with scientists or policy makers with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    Regulation of nursing care homes – is this done appropriately? Do the regulators understand the implications of the minimum requirements regarding care of the older person in a privately run home? Is it a ‘home’?

    4. Any other comments you would like to make.
    —————–

    1. What are your hopes and aspirations with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    That it will promote more awareness of the needs of older people and reduce ageist attitudes. That it will enable a sense of social integration across generations.

    2. What are your concerns with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    - Rebalancing society’s focus on acute illness at the expense of palliative and supportive care
    - Finding better ways of supporting people with dementia and their carers

    3. What issues would you like to raise with scientists or policy makers with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    - The threat to co-ordination of care posed by proposed changes to the NHS
    - The need to raise the profile of family/informal carers; care homes.

    4. Any other comments you would like to make.

    The importance of valuing care workers and professional nurses as preventers of morbidity in older people.

    —————–

    1. What are your hopes and aspirations with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    Care work to be valued as the worthwhile profession it is and remunerated accordingly with sufficient investment in care policies and training.

    2. What are your concerns with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    That ageing is seen as a physiological process and emphasis is placed on meeting medical needs. Consideration needs to be given to providing choice about care environments and psychological support on an equal footing with general adult settings.

    3. What issues would you like to raise with scientists or policy makers with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    There are not enough care home places and those that are available are in very low quality, restrictive settings.
    How do you propose to meet placement needs?
    How will you ensure that there is adquate choice, quantity & regulation of care settings?

    4. Any other comments you would like to make.
    —————–

    1. What are your hopes and aspirations with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    For care workers to have mandatory training in dementia and pressure care.
    For elderly to receive the same quality of life as younger people in care as people in elderly care homes to not get to go out unless they have family.

    2. What are your concerns with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    My concern is that care workers do not have the knowledge and if they want to learn more they have to do it off their own back and fund themselves.
    Also negative views of elderly care (incontinence).

    3. What issues would you like to raise with scientists or policy makers with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    From experience with elderly care they have said to spend all your money now as it will get taken off you when you’re older so will we receive care as will there be the money for it.

    4. Any other comments you would like to make.

    It’s not just the families job to care!

    —————–

    1. What are your hopes and aspirations with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    - Celebrating old age – offer classes to keep up with technology.
    - TV programming for the elderly
    - More events with varied age workshops/forums
    - Mandatory service of youth to work with elderly care much like national service (5 hours/week for 1 year)

    2. What are your concerns with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    - Funds
    - Policy / Institute – Personnel, care policy. Society should provide elder care / palliative care as they do in healthcare, child services.

    3. What issues would you like to raise with scientists or policy makers with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    Major Issues
    ————
    1) Funding – Funding model to be established
    2) Institutional/policy availability & making
    3) Celebrate ageing – giving elders opportunity & positions to learn the new & disseminate wisdom.

    4. Any other comments you would like to make.

    Was expecting more science information. Seemed a more epidemiological discussion.

    —————–

    1. What are your hopes and aspirations with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    TV programmes featuring older people
    More buses for old people & more day centres.
    Better support for carers.

    2. What are your concerns with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    Not enough support for carers.
    Isolation of older people.
    Women often survive alone, leading to isolation and lack of confidence.
    Refusal of society to think about ageing and death.

    3. What issues would you like to raise with scientists or policy makers with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    Need to talk about death and dying with young people and show it is not scary but a great adventure.

    4. Any other comments you would like to make.

    Need more money spent on dementia.

    —————–

    1. What are your hopes and aspirations with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    TV channels for older people.

    2. What are your concerns with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    Isolation.

    3. What issues would you like to raise with scientists or policy makers with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    Educate young people about death.

    4. Any other comments you would like to make.
    —————–

    1. What are your hopes and aspirations with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    That civilisation will continue despite the costs.

    2. What are your concerns with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    Ageism in the working environment unfortunately not discussed.
    Life-enhancing medications continue to be efficient at manufactured costs.
    Medical science good but pharmacy industries make too much profit.

    3. What issues would you like to raise with scientists or policy makers with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    Yes please define whiat is youth and what is old. It does not depend on chronological age as stated.

    4. Any other comments you would like to make.
    —————–

    1. What are your hopes and aspirations with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    I hope prevention of ill health will be a priority – alcohol moderation, drug abuse prevention, healthy eating, adequate exercise.
    I hope government seeks good medical care for dementia patients, ie time spent by family and professionals to understand patient needs and treating ill health.

    2. What are your concerns with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    Concerned dementia patients are not fully understood and accommodated in health care system despite Incapacity Act.
    Carers also need consideration and respite by good daycare units, district and community nursing etc.

    3. What issues would you like to raise with scientists or policy makers with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    Palliative care – needs to be expanded enough because needed by wide range of patients not just cancer. Also such care might reduce health care costs.
    Obesity. Dementia. Recognising depression / anxiety.

    4. Any other comments you would like to make.

    General prevention ill health.
    Not just retreating into privatisation.
    Ways to offer care – thinking outside the usual boxes.
    —————–

    1. What are your hopes and aspirations with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    To experience old age in good health.

    2. What are your concerns with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    The country’s ability to afford and organise effective care for old age people.

    3. What issues would you like to raise with scientists or policy makers with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    Has the government got a long-term plan for dealing with the ageing population?
    How are we going to deal with diabetes especially as this is a growing problem?

    4. Any other comments you would like to make.

    Well-organised event.
    —————–

    1. What are your hopes and aspirations with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    My hopes are that we can learn from past experience of mortality and realise that throughout history we have discussed the prospect of dealth some form and its effects on us, so there is more need for events like this.

    2. What are your concerns with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    How people fear loneliness which can never really be appreciated because older people don’t ask for help.

    3. What issues would you like to raise with scientists or policy makers with regard to the topic discussed at today’s event?

    The need for counsellors for older people. The need for their concerns to be heard.

    4. Any other comments you would like to make.

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